Are women superior to men?

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On the point: Equality not superiority

Okay, I iterate, the existence,creation and successful use of artificial sperm indicates , that men are NO LONGER needed for the survival and proliferation of the human race. That's where your survival of the fittest argument falls apart.

Agreed, that women and men are both superior and inferior to each other, in a lot of things BUT in Reproduction, there IS no contest(men cannot even 'compete'(cannot reproduce all on their own) forget being just 'relatively' inferior) Which (I reiterate) makes women 'superior' overall.

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Excellent point regarding the dangers of artificial breeding. However, you neglect to address the emotional / physical bond that exists between mother and child (artificial or not). Thus, females still can and have one thing males do not; of course females do also have other unique features that would arguably be less than superior bad (such as the mood swings listed above). Males also have the power to force themselves on us, often through violence, to have children (rape), and while frowned on by society it is a possibility and induced by your hormones. Therefore, females have a stronger bond to offspring, while both suffer from hormone mood swings. I would also like to see your research for the point on brain chemistry, I have read things along that line but for the sake of evidence please cite.

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Test-tube/Petri-dish babies still require a womb(a female/natural one) to develop in.
There is no evidence for the 'dangers' you postulate and prophesize.

If boys were actually more rational the youngest mathematics professor to date,would be a young boy.

The majority of crimes-of-passion are committed by men, 'Testosterone' (there's a lot more in men than women) causes bursts of anger among other things, it's one key reason why menopausal(increased testosterone=balding,risky behavior (stupidity/bravery),frequent temper tantrums,hair in odd places and so on) women have anger issues.
Men not only have uncontrollable tempers, they have been encouraged throughout the ages to vent, to roar, to smash things or be branded spineless/sexless. And women are supposed to put up with it. Women may have mood swings during certain periods in our menstrual cycle [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone]] but men are always like that.[[http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=testosterone+stupidity]]

And Progesterone isn't absent from males.'Adult males have levels similar to those in women during the follicular phase of the menstrual cycle'-[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone#Levels]]

So the argument here is men cannot handle/tolerate the reality that women are better in every respect therefore are too immature to accept this fact and should be 'protected from the truth before they go on one of their aggressive violent mad killing/abusing sprees. I see your point.

And this point is further illustrated in light of velock's deleting spree.

This debate is of long standing and in my opinion completely unnecessary.We shouldn't question who is superior to whom because in the world both have their own respective roles to fill and in some aspects women are superior while in others men are.For e.g. men can't reproduce thus cannot be responsible for the continuity of our race.Similarly science says that men have more brute force and strength than women.
Man and woman were made for co-existing, which shows that neither can be superior if one applies Darwin's theory of the 'survival of the fittest'.I imagine that since both genders have survived so far, both are equally fit.Remove one and the scales won't balance anymore and most likely lead to extinction of mankind rather than flourishing of one so-called 'superior' race.

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In response to the subjet of artifical spern and males being obselete allegedly. I will refer to the countless examples of medical breakthroughs that have proven detrimental to the human race in the past. As such, tampering in nature to potentially eliminate the necessity of one sex, is highly dangerious and while it might prove lucritive now. Nobody could predict the effects of using artifical sperm could have upon the human species in say one, two, or five generations.

As such, scientists have also developed ways to grow babies in tubes or an artifical womb if you prefer. As such, this type of claim is not founded, as things that appear wounderful today for humanity can prove to be out demise in the future. As it stands, this argument falls down to physical abilities of each sex without human interferance, and humans can cause further harm to society. Refer to Technological Determinism to observe effects on technology, a trait that extends far greater and more dangeriously to biological creatures we do not fully understand and may never completely understand in entirity.

On the other hand, boys are superior to females because the function of our brains to work on single objectives, and lack of various disharmonious hormones such as Progesterone, cause us to have a more stable outlook on the world. Mind you, as I am certain will be argued, this single objective nature does limit our creaitivty, it promotes our rationality.

Debate: Rationality > Instability. Males ARE more rational, whatever way ensue due to hormones and brain chemisty, and are therefore greater than instable female emotions caused by hormone mood swings.

*Females can give birth granted is one thing males can not do, however, females are also incapable of procreating on their own naturally. And therefore both sexes are required. Anything can in theory be done artifically, and as stated, this could be deterimental and is thereby circumstatial not evidence which should be the only grounded-theory in debate.

 

No, because... Equality not superiority

Okay, I iterate, the existence,creation and successful use of artificial sperm indicates , that men are NO LONGER needed for the survival and proliferation of the human race. That's where your survival of the fittest argument falls apart.

Agreed, that women and men are both superior and inferior to each other, in a lot of things BUT in Reproduction, there IS no contest(men cannot even 'compete'(cannot reproduce all on their own) forget being just 'relatively' inferior) Which (I reiterate) makes women 'superior' overall.

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Excellent point regarding the dangers of artificial breeding. However, you neglect to address the emotional / physical bond that exists between mother and child (artificial or not). Thus, females still can and have one thing males do not; of course females do also have other unique features that would arguably bad (such as the mood swings listed above). Males also have the power to force themselves on us, often through violence, to have children (rape), and while frowned on by society it is a possibility and induced by your hormones. Therefore, females have a stronger bond to offspring, while both suffer from hormone mood swings. I would also like to see your research for the point on brain chemistry, I have read things along that line but for the sake of evidence please cite.

--- Test-tube/Petri-dish babies still require a womb(a female/natural one) to develop in. There is no evidence for the 'dangers' you postulate and prophesize.

If boys were actually more rational the youngest mathematics professor to date,would be a young boy.

The majority of crimes-of-passion are committed by men, 'Testosterone' (there's a lot more in men than women) causes bursts of anger among other things, it's one key reason why menopausal(increased testosterone=balding,risky behavior (stupidity/bravery),frequent temper tantrums,hair in odd places and so on) women have anger issues. Men not only have uncontrollable tempers, they have been encouraged throughout the ages to vent, to roar, to smash things or be branded spineless/sexless. And women are supposed to put up with it. Women may have mood swings during certain periods in our menstrual cycle[1] but men are always like that.[2]

And Progesterone isn't absent from males.'Adult males have levels similar to those in women during the follicular phase of the menstrual cycle'-[3] So the argument here is men cannot handle/tolerate the reality that women are better in every respect therefore are too immature to accept this fact and should be 'protected from the truth before they go on one of their aggressive violent mad killing/abusing sprees. I see your point.

And this point is further illustrated in light of velock's deleting spree.

  1. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone
  2. ^ http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=testosterone+stupidity
  3. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progesterone#Levels

 

This debate is of long standing and in my opinion completely unnecessary.We shouldn't question who is superior to whom because in the world both have their own respective roles to fill and in some aspects women are superior while in others men are.For e.g. men can't reproduce thus cannot be responsible for the continuity of our race.Similarly science says that men have more brute force and strength than women. Man and woman were made for co-existing, which shows that neither can be superior if one applies Darwin's theory of the 'survival of the fittest'.I imagine that since both genders have survived so far, both are equally fit.Remove one and the scales won't balance anymore and most likely lead to extinction of mankind rather than flourishing of one so-called 'superior' race.

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In response to the subjet of artifical spern and males being obselete allegedly. I will refer to the countless examples of medical breakthroughs that have proven detrimental to the human race in the past. As such, tampering in nature to potentially eliminate the necessity of one sex, is highly dangerious and while it might prove lucritive now. Nobody could predict the effects of using artifical sperm could have upon the human species in say one, two, or five generations.

As such, scientists have also developed ways to grow babies in tubes or an artifical womb if you prefer. As such, this type of claim is not founded, as things that appear wounderful today for humanity can prove to be out demise in the future. As it stands, this argument falls down to physical abilities of each sex without human interferance, and humans can cause further harm to society. Refer to Technological Determinism to observe effects on technology, a trait that extends far greater and more dangeriously to biological creatures we do not fully understand and may never completely understand in entirity.

On the other hand, boys are superior to females because the function of our brains to work on single objectives, and lack of various disharmonious hormones such as Progesterone, cause us to have a more stable outlook on the world. Mind you, as I am certain will be argued, this single objective nature does limit our creaitivty, it promotes our rationality.

Debate: Rationality > Instability. Males ARE more rational, whatever way ensue due to hormones and brain chemisty, and are therefore greater than instable female emotions caused by hormone mood swings.

*Females can give birth granted is one thing males can not do, however, females are also incapable of procreating on their own naturally. And therefore both sexes are required. Anything can in theory be done artifically, and as stated, this could be deterimental and is thereby circumstatial not evidence which should be the only grounded-theory in debate.

 
22 February 2011