SHOULD THE DESIRE OF POLITICIANS FOR EU MEMBERSHIP BE THE ONLY REASON TO IMPROVE THE DIFFICULT CONDITIONS THAT THE ROMA FACE?

"Social inclusion of the Roma is a European issue. The difficult conditions the Roma face need to be improved in Bosnia and Herzegovina, as well as in all countries aspiring for EU membership. Bosnia and Herzegovina has made efforts to foster Roma inclusion. However, many challenges remain to be tackled. Civil registration, inclusive education and the issue of illegally built settlements are some of them. These policies should be explicitly but not exclusively targeting Roma, as other social groups need to be assisted. Furthermore, experience proves that the effectiveness of these policies are enhanced if the Roma community itself is involved from the very beginning of the process, with a particular emphasis on the role given to women", - Mr. Pierre Mirel, Director for the Western Balkans in the European Commission, at one-day workshop entitled "Roma Inclusion Seminar: Way Forward for Bosnia and Herzegovina".

Should the desire of politicians for EU membership be the only reason to improve the difficult conditions that the Roma face?

 

No, because... They need to see Roma as equal compatriots

That French revolution quote is an obvious jab at the French government. All governments can do is urge their people to behave to their benefit. If government reps feel they cannot put up with non-citizens squatting on their countries soil, without being a danger/nuisance to themselves and others. Then that Government has the right to extradite those people. Illegal immigrants are deported on a frequent basis from every country in the world.

As far as European governments being all talk is concerned. One million Great British pounds have been put into the Roma Project.[1] "Leeds, Wakefield and a partnership of other Yorkshire authorities will lead the £1m European Union-funded project, which also involves cities in Bulgaria, Greece, Hungary, Italy and Spain.

Academics from Salford University's centre for social justice will research how the 12 million people who make up the EU's biggest ethnic minority are treated by member states.

The initiative is part of the EU's riposte to the plans of the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, to deport Roma people. The EU argues that migrants from eastern Europe, where prejudice has increased since the collapse of communism, can make a significant economic contribution to host countries.

The exercise will be led by Yorkshire and the Humber's regional migration partnership (RMP), which has encouraged similar exercises, such as Sheffield's declaration of "city of sanctuary" status for migrants. Help will be given for two years to both Roma and their neighbours in existing communities, with a focus on integration, jobs, schools and childcare.

Olivia Rowley, a Wakefield councillor and chair of the RMP, said: "All local authorities where Roma have settled know that there can be real challenges in working with them. This project will provide a great opportunity to make sure we are developing the skills and knowledge we need to provide services to an extremely vulnerable group."

  1. ^ http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/oct/04/northern-councils-roma-integration-project

 

Very often politicians use people to reach their own goals. The Roma are also used in political tricks, including the ones of a high EU-level. Instead of using nice-sounding "pro-Roma, pro-integration, pro-inclusion" rhetoric the governments should simply have good will to help Roma to be equal. It is not the matter of numerous researches, papers, resolutions and not even of "EU membership". It is a matter of Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!

 

Vote on this point: They need to see Roma as equal compatriots

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Should the desire of politicians for EU membership be the only reason to improve the difficult conditions that the Roma face?

 

No, because... It's a security issue, oder nicht?

"However, the European Commission said that the French government must make individual determinations that EU nationals pose security threats before expelling them, and give EU nationals ordered to leave a month to wrap up their affairs in France. EU nationals have the right to live in other EU member nations up to three months unless they are a security threat; they can be removed after three months if they do not have a job or resources to support themselves and lack health insurance.

The Commission warned France that it had failed to incorporate into national legislation minimum European Union standards protecting ethnic groups, as prescribed by a 2004 EU agreement. " Roma are accepted as EU nationals and the French Roma are French nationals, why they are treated as noimads without citizenship is confusing at best. Residents of both democracies Italy and France strongly oppose the existence of Roma on their soil, because the community is notoriously useless. The democratic french and Italians believe, that the Roma in their countries refuse to integrate and develop themselves, using the public education system or any other form of training so that they maybe skilled to perform the jobs/tasks that they want handed to them. The French fought the French revolution, freedom was attained at the end of a struggle, but the Roma chose to exclude themselves from the communities around them, refuse to goto school or get jobs, and then are given jobs they don't deserve because of human rights and social justice organizations. The EU excluding Italy and France, is all for supporting the Roma and keeps France and Italy under enough pressure so as to see to it , that whenever a Roma is treated unfairly , s/he will be given justice, ultimately.

 

"In August 2010, Sarkozy ordered an estimated 350 illegal Roma camps removed and their residents deported after some Roma were involved in an attack on a police station. Roma, or gypsies, mostly from Romania and Bulgaria, often establish camps on the outskirts of cities and seek day labor jobs; some beg and engage in petty crime. Removing Roma is popular with French voters worried about "security;" 80 percent of respondents in one poll supported closing Roma camps."

"Almost 8,000 Romanians were removed from France in 2009, and 4,400 in the first six months of 2010; those who leave voluntarily receive a free flight home and a cash payment of E300 per adult. The Roma removals, which prompted demonstrations against Sarkozy's government on September 4, 2010, led the EU's justice commissioner, Viviane Reding, to liken the French government's removal of Roma to Nazi removals of gypsies and Jews during WWII.

Sarkozy and the EU agree that the Romanian government has not done enough to integrate the Roma, whose numbers are estimated at 500,000 to two million. Some Romanians speculate that the social assistance available in France, combined with cash payments to leave, would encourage more Roma to migrate to France." Roma have gotten more financial support for getting out of France, then for living in any other European country. If the Roma are busy attacking police stations or stealing or begging for a living then all efforts towards social inclusion have been proven futile.

 

Vote on this point: It's a security issue, oder nicht?

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Vote on this debate: Should the desire of politicians for EU membership be the only reason to improve the difficult conditions that the Roma face?

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22 February 2011