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ARE ROMA MORE INTEGRATED IN TURKEY THAN IN THE COUNTRIES OF EUROPEAN UNION?
“Unlike in most European countries, Roma people feel part of the rest of society in Turkey,” - Elmas Arus, chairwoman of the Zero Discrimination Association. “The Roma people’s problems are all Turkish people’s problems ... The Turkish government is committed to considering possible solutions for the Roma people’s problems and better integrating them into Turkish society,” - Egemen Bağış, Turkey’s chief negotiator for EU membership. "Though some aspects of the situation of Roma are better than in European Union and Western Balkan countries, Roma in Turkey still face many problems," - participants in the European Commission-sponsored seminar "Roma Citizens In Turkey" held in Istanbul on 15-16 December 2010.
Are Roma more integrated in Turkey than in the countries of European Union?
Yes, because... Roma people feel part of the rest of society in Turkey
“Unlike in most European countries, Roma people feel part of the rest of society in Turkey,” - Elmas Arus, chairwoman of the Zero Discrimination Association.
Roma experience a loss of identity; they may look like Turks but they aren't Turkish. The only way Roma can feel at home in Turkey is if they forget who they are; forget their identity, customs and beliefs etc.
Vote on this point: Roma people feel part of the rest of society in Turkey
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Are Roma more integrated in Turkey than in the countries of European Union?
Yes, because... The Roma people’s problems are all Turkish people’s problems
“The Roma people’s problems are all Turkish people’s problems ... The Turkish government is committed to considering possible solutions for the Roma people’s problems and better integrating them into Turkish society,” - Egemen Bağış, Turkey’s chief negotiator for EU membership.
Domlar in particular face extreme poverty, marginalization and discrimination. Look at the book We are Here! http://www.errc.org/cms/upload/media/03/90/m00000390.pdf
"The Domlar are related to groups of Dom Gypsies in the Middle East and may have arrived in the Turkish lands sometime in the early 11th century AD, in the south east (Diyarbakır, Antakya, Mardin), if references in Armenian chronicles are correct. They currently live in the south and eastern parts of Turkey and are primarily musicians who specialise in playing the large drum (davul) and zurna, a kind of simple oboe. They maintain their own language, Domari (or Domca in Turkish) and also speak Kurmanci or Zaza and Turkish, keeping Domari as a ‘secret language’ or in-group code. Culturally close to the Kurdish population, they nevertheless suffer significant and violent discrimination from them with documented cases of physical attacks and murder. They also suffer from the discriminatory attentions of the Turkish state security forces in the region. Most Dom are close to Sufi Islam and local sheikhs, but some are Yezidi in the north east region close to Doğubayezit. There are some 500,000 in Turkey, though this figure needs further research to confirm. They are frequently extremely poor and many are nomadic." (p. 26)
So any discussion has to look at Romanlar, Domlar and the smaller community of Lomlar and their concrete situation, not just in 'European' towns like Edirne.
Vote on this point: The Roma people’s problems are all Turkish people’s problems
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Vote on this debate: Are Roma more integrated in Turkey than in the countries of European Union?
Modified:
28 Dec 2010
Point 1. Roma people feel part of the rest of society in Turkey
“Unlike in most European countries, Roma people feel part of the rest of society in Turkey,” - Elmas Arus, chairwoman of the Zero Discrimination Association.
Roma experience a loss of identity; they may look like Turks but they aren't Turkish. The only way Roma can feel at home in Turkey is if they forget who they are; forget their identity, customs and beliefs etc.
Point 2. The Roma people’s problems are all Turkish people’s problems
“The Roma people’s problems are all Turkish people’s problems ... The Turkish government is committed to considering possible solutions for the Roma people’s problems and better integrating them into Turkish society,” - Egemen Bağış, Turkey’s chief negotiator for EU membership.
Domlar in particular face extreme poverty, marginalization and discrimination. Look at the book We are Here! http://www.errc.org/cms/upload/media/03/90/m00000390.pdf
"The Domlar are related to groups of Dom Gypsies in the Middle East and may have arrived in the Turkish lands sometime in the early 11th century AD, in the south east (Diyarbakır, Antakya, Mardin), if references in Armenian chronicles are correct. They currently live in the south and eastern parts of Turkey and are primarily musicians who specialise in playing the large drum (davul) and zurna, a kind of simple oboe. They maintain their own language, Domari (or Domca in Turkish) and also speak Kurmanci or Zaza and Turkish, keeping Domari as a ‘secret language’ or in-group code. Culturally close to the Kurdish population, they nevertheless suffer significant and violent discrimination from them with documented cases of physical attacks and murder. They also suffer from the discriminatory attentions of the Turkish state security forces in the region. Most Dom are close to Sufi Islam and local sheikhs, but some are Yezidi in the north east region close to Doğubayezit. There are some 500,000 in Turkey, though this figure needs further research to confirm. They are frequently extremely poor and many are nomadic." (p. 26)
So any discussion has to look at Romanlar, Domlar and the smaller community of Lomlar and their concrete situation, not just in 'European' towns like Edirne.