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TRAIN OPERATING COMPANIES SHOULD BE FORCED TO INCREASE CAPACITY.
Anyone who takes the train in Britain since privatisation knows that not only are prices going up and up but the trains are getting more and more crowded. Some of this is caused by problems that are beyond the control of the companies that run the railways but there are things that could be done. The Public Accounts Committee says that "already unacceptable levels of overcrowding will simply get worse and ever more intolerable" and blames the franchise agreements for not stipulating increasing capacity as part of the contract. But should it really be up to the operating companies to build capacity, should network rail not be building new lines, longer platforms and increasing the loading gage?
Train operating companies should be forced to increase capacity.
Yes, because... The Government is investing in the train transport system
The Government is placing tax payers' money into the train transport system in order to improve the service. Who is this service provided to? Tax payers. Therefore, tax payer money is being used to improve the system that tax payers use; but this is not being effected by train operators. With a sound investment for the people being provided for, the train operators who receive the funding should be forced to apply the money for which it is given.[1]
The Office of Rail Regulation which is responsible for ensuring Network Rail delivers infrastructure efficiently; pertains that there is not an issue.
While the future expected demand for a better and spacier rail system is not nearly met; the fraction of it that can be afforded has been accounted for. That is to say the rail system has been improved to a degree, solely on the basis of the current amount of tax payer investment into the project and the fraction of demand that needs to be met currently and not by 2014.[1]
Year by year more investment will pour in and changes catering to the predicted passenger demand for 2014 will be made in due process; ultimately and God-willing.
Vote on this point: The Government is investing in the train transport system
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Train operating companies should be forced to increase capacity.
Yes, because... We are 18 months into our five year improvement plan
The Government placed objectives on the train transport providers and set a deadline of March 2014. Train operators are now 18 months into this timetabled schedule, and no changes have been effected. The Government should not set deadlines or give budgeted amounts to service providers if they are unwilling to enforce such action. Therefore, the Government should show strength and enforce the timetabled schedule it has invested in.[1]
"Under the plans longer platforms are being built and there will be more carriages on services into London and other major cities during peak hours."- so the claim that nothing is being done is false.
The government never required improvement in rail capacity within train operators' contracts; so the claim that the government's requirements are not being met is also false.[1]
Vote on this point: We are 18 months into our five year improvement plan
See history of changes to this point
Train operating companies should be forced to increase capacity.
Yes, because... the lines are fine, we need more efficient planning of services
The problem with the train does not lie with the actual train lines. Here, the issue of overcrowding is not to do with stopping at different stations. The problem is that there are not enough trains in the peak periods and too many in the quiet periods of the day. The Department of Transport have already stated what to do; Introduce smart ticketing in order to find out exactly how many trains are needed and for when[1]. This is where the money needs to be applied.
Vote on this point: the lines are fine, we need more efficient planning of services
See history of changes to this point
Train operating companies should be forced to increase capacity.
No, because... it would be pointless
It won't be pointless. Increasing rail capacity is a need that cannot and should not be shrugged off by making the use of the service too pricey for most of its consumers.
People need to travel by train or by road and cannot readily shift to expensive downtown areas. Making train tickets expensive will not remove demand but shift it from one transport system to another. Currently train travel is the least expensive (inferior-good) travel option when it comes to covering large distances; usually to travel to work.
If ticket prices soar to higher than those for other alternative travel options; then those less efficient travel options will be employed; causing an unnecessary road traffic disaster; that will call for more investment in the transport system leading us back to the problem we are trying to avoid (more taxpayer pounds in the transport sector) "and" the cheery on the top of our Christmas pudding is that train tickets will also be very pricey. This will culminate is a lose-lose situation for the public. M.Ps are right to holler now; before it's too late.[1]
at the rate of increasing fares that is prevailing at the moment, there is no need to increase the capacity on the trains as soon only very few people will be able to afford to use the train services!
Vote on this point: it would be pointless
See history of changes to this point
Vote on this debate: Train operating companies should be forced to increase capacity.
Modified:
25 Nov 2010
Point 1. The Government is investing in the train transport system
The Government are placing tax payers money into the train transport system in order to improve the service. Who is this service provided to? Tax payers. Therefore, tax payer money is being used to improve the system that tax payers use; but this is not being effected by Network Rail. With a sound investment for the people bing provided for, the train operators who receive the funding should be forced to apply the money for which it is given for.[1]
The Office of Rail Regulation which is responsible for ensuring Network Rail delivers infrastructure efficiently; pertains that there is not an issue.
While the future expected demand for a better and spacier rail system is not nearly met; the fraction of it that can be afforded has been accounted for. That is to say the rail system has been improved top a degree, on the basis of the current amount of tax payer investment into the project. Year by year more investment will pour in and changes catering to the predicted passenger demand for 2014 will be made in due process; ultimately and God-willing.
Point 2. We are 18 months into our five year improvement plan
The Government placed objectives on the train transport providers and set a deadline of March 2014. Train operators are now 18 months into this timetabled schedule, and no changes have been effected. The Government should not set deadlines or give budgeted amounts to service providers if they are unwilling to enforce such action. Therefore, the Government should show strength and enforce the timetabled schedule it has invested in.[1]
"Under the plans longer platforms are being built and there will be more carriages on services into London and other major cities during peak hours."- so the claim that nothing is being done is false.
The government never required improvement in rail capacity within train operators' contracts; so the claim that the government's requirements are not being met is also false.[1]
Point 3. the lines are fine, we need more efficient planning of services
The problem with the train does not lie with the actual train lines. Here, the issue of overcrowding is not to do with stopping at different stations. The problem is that there are not enough trains in the peek periods and too many in the quiet periods of the day. The Department of Transport have already stated what to do; Introduce smart ticketing in order to find out exactly how many trains are needed and for when[1]. This is where the money needs to be applied.
Smart ticketing is a complete and utter failure. All it accomplishes is making rail travel too expensive for most people therefore curtailing demand for rail travel. This in turn crowds up the already over-trafficked streets with more carbon emission spewing vehicles. Making traffic jams eminent and travel as a whole entirely inefficient. What we need is a means to improve the rails to accommodate increasing demand rather than shift demand to other areas in the transport system; making it even more problematically overwhelming. This solution is a capitalistic catastrophe and needs to be thoroughly revised.[1]
Point 1. it would be pointless
at the rate of increasing fares that is prevailing at the moment, there is no need to increase the capacity on the trains as soon only very few people will be able to afford to use the train services!
It won't be pointless. Increasing rail capacity is a need that cannot and should not be shrugged off by making the use of the service too pricey for most of its consumers.
People need to travel by train or by road and cannot readily shift to expensive downtown areas. Making train tickets expensive will not remove demand but shift it from one transport system to another. Currently train travel is the least expensive (inferior-good) travel option when it comes to covering large distances; usually to travel to work.
If ticket prices soar to higher than those for other alternative travel options; then those less efficient travel options will be employed; causing an unnecessary road traffic disaster; that will call for more investment in the transport system leading us back to the problem we are trying to avoid (more taxpayer pounds in the transport sector) "and" the cheery on the top of our Christmas pudding is that train tickets will also be very pricey. This will culminate is a lose-lose situation for the public. M.Ps are right to holler now; before it's too late.