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On the point: Google is currently under investigation in Europe, Asia, North America, South Africa and Australia

[[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/robjackson/100007091/google-slowly-forgetting-its-dont-be-evil-motto/]]
"After being told by customers that Google, claiming to be a partner of Mocality, were offering paid-for website services, Magdalinski assumed he was being targeted by a rogue call-centre employee. Further investigation into the source of the website visits found that Google sales staff from Kenya, and later India, were using Mocality to target companies for their Kenyan-based product Get Kenyan Business Online.
Suspecting something was amiss, Mocality staff set their website to automatically change the telephone numbers on the directory to their own, whenever the page was loaded by one of the suspected IP addresses. They then recorded Google sales staff attempting to sell web hosting services, and in one case accusing Mocality of "bait-and-switch" tactics in order to discredit them."
[[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/09/google_south_korean_probe/]]
"Google has been accused of methodically interfering with an anti-competition investigation into Android by South Korea's Fair Trade Commission.Google deleted files and made its employees work from home in an attempt to frustrate the investigation, alleges the commission in an interview with a South Korean newspaper. The non-co-operation allegedly came after Google's Seoul office was raided by the commission's officials in September. The anti-competition probers were looking into whether Google's Android phones unfairly prioritise Google search and are "systematically designed" to make it difficult to switch to another option.
According to the newspaper report, the South Korean watchdog is considering imposing its maximum fine for non-compliance. "[[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/05/ftc_considering_broad_google_antitrust_probe/]] "Bloomberg reports that before launching a probe, the FTC is waiting to see if the Department of Justice will challenge Google's proposed acquisition of flight data outfit ITA Software."
None of these many trials have been consummated but since there are so many, spanning five major continents by democratic justice Google should be guilty of something pretty serious.

[quote=danilocampos] Yes, because Google isn't forming a cartel to stifle competition."$1 
Hmm. I'm not so sure. There's a way to see Google's behavior where what they're doing is precisely that$1 
Predatory pricing exists when you try to take over a market by selling something so cheap, other competitors are driven out – or prevented from entering, since they couldn't recoup the costs involved in developing a product$1 
In league with their manufacturing partners, Google has their own cartel, attempting to homogenize the smartphone landscape under a single, free OS$1 
The incentives are obvious: it's much easier for Google to make its ad money if it controls the next big platform$1 
They may have dressed it up as pious and open – but for their purposes, it's a land grab. Is it anticompetitive? I'm not sure. My antitrust scholarship began and ended with The Microsoft File back in the 90's. But I'm also not sure it's any better than whatever satanic pact they are intimating has been formed by Apple and Microsoft$1 
Google's argument here is summed up as "You could trust us with those patents. But we didn't get them. You can't trust the guys who did get them." I'm pretty sure at this scale, with this much cash on the line, business just doesn't work that way. Google will run over anyone to keep their ad money flowing, just as Microsoft will run over anyone to keep their license money flowing. Why should we side with one cause over the other?[/quote]  
Point being, it's a dog eat dog town, Google is only doing what it has to do to survive: "When you can't beat 'em join 'em" [[http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2843615]]

Yes, because... Google is currently under investigation in Europe, Asia, North America, South Africa and Australia

 

[1] "After being told by customers that Google, claiming to be a partner of Mocality, were offering paid-for website services, Magdalinski assumed he was being targeted by a rogue call-centre employee. Further investigation into the source of the website visits found that Google sales staff from Kenya, and later India, were using Mocality to target companies for their Kenyan-based product Get Kenyan Business Online. Suspecting something was amiss, Mocality staff set their website to automatically change the telephone numbers on the directory to their own, whenever the page was loaded by one of the suspected IP addresses. They then recorded Google sales staff attempting to sell web hosting services, and in one case accusing Mocality of "bait-and-switch" tactics in order to discredit them."[2] "Google has been accused of methodically interfering with an anti-competition investigation into Android by South Korea's Fair Trade Commission.Google deleted files and made its employees work from home in an attempt to frustrate the investigation, alleges the commission in an interview with a South Korean newspaper. The non-co-operation allegedly came after Google's Seoul office was raided by the commission's officials in September. The anti-competition probers were looking into whether Google's Android phones unfairly prioritise Google search and are "systematically designed" to make it difficult to switch to another option. According to the newspaper report, the South Korean watchdog is considering imposing its maximum fine for non-compliance. "[3] "Bloomberg reports that before launching a probe, the FTC is waiting to see if the Department of Justice will challenge Google's proposed acquisition of flight data outfit ITA Software." None of these many trials have been consummated but since there are so many, spanning five major continents by democratic justice Google should be guilty of something pretty serious.

  1. ^ http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/robjackson/100007091/google-slowly-forgetting-its-dont-be-evil-motto/
  2. ^ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01/09/google_south_korean_probe/
  3. ^ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/04/05/ftc_considering_broad_google_antitrust_probe/

 

danilocampos
Yes, because Google isn't forming a cartel to stifle competition." Hmm. I'm not so sure. There's a way to see Google's behavior where what they're doing is precisely that. Predatory pricing exists when you try to take over a market by selling something so cheap, other competitors are driven out – or prevented from entering, since they couldn't recoup the costs involved in developing a product. In league with their manufacturing partners, Google has their own cartel, attempting to homogenize the smartphone landscape under a single, free OS. The incentives are obvious: it's much easier for Google to make its ad money if it controls the next big platform. They may have dressed it up as pious and open – but for their purposes, it's a land grab. Is it anticompetitive? I'm not sure. My antitrust scholarship began and ended with The Microsoft File back in the 90's. But I'm also not sure it's any better than whatever satanic pact they are intimating has been formed by Apple and Microsoft. Google's argument here is summed up as "You could trust us with those patents. But we didn't get them. You can't trust the guys who did get them." I'm pretty sure at this scale, with this much cash on the line, business just doesn't work that way. Google will run over anyone to keep their ad money flowing, just as Microsoft will run over anyone to keep their license money flowing. Why should we side with one cause over the other?
Point being, it's a dog eat dog town, Google is only doing what it has to do to survive: "When you can't beat 'em join 'em"[1]
  1. ^ http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2843615

 
22 February 2011